Cho Jikuu Yosai Macross 25-28: Where Kawamori Put His Money Where His Mouth Is

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This arc is the answer to the question: “What is Macross?” Kawamori Shoji, series creator described the show as a “love triangle set against the backdrop of great battles.” While this is only the creator’s own reading or claim about his work, and ultimately does not negate or deny any other possibility of Macross, it is what also happens to be the most satisfying answer as far as I’m concerned.

I can easily project my own reading upon this work. I can read it as an essay on the fallibility of public figures, from military leaders to pop idols. I can read it as a more authentic proselytizing against war/entreaty for peace via a violent anime for children. I can read it as an attempt towards a timeless entry in the space opera tradition. I will do none of these here. Instead I choose to prove Kawamori’s claim and in the process make it my own.

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What I’m Not Saying

I’m not saying Macross isn’t any of the things I said I wouldn’t claim in this essay. I’m not saying Macross isn’t a space opera or a clever work of science fiction, or a solid entry in the tradition of real robot anime, or an exposé of the idol industry and the humanity of the pop idol. As far as I’m concerned, Macross is all these things to some degree.

What I do here is distinguish the love triangle, the love story aspect of the work as the primary offering of the whole thing. Viewers may value the different readings differently, but this isn’t about valuing as much as highlighting what’s so. Let us consider the episodes that make the case (I will be using the Wikipedia summaries for the episodes):

Episode 25 “Virgin Road”

Max encounters Milia in the park and a knife fight between them ensues when she reveals that she is a Zentradi. Max defeats her for the third time, sparing her life, and the two fall in love. Milia decides to join the Macross and their immediate marriage marks the first union between a human and Zentradi, causing celebrations everywhere along Macross City. Boddole Zer, on the other hand, doesn’t like the idea and plans to fix the ‘contamination’ that is human culture once and for all.

There are two side love stories in Macross, one tragic, one comic: Claudia x Roy, then Max x Millya respectively. One had to end to give way to the other in terms of narrative ‘exposure’ or ‘airtime.’ The love story of Max and Millya reaches its comic high point in their third duel (a knife fight in the park), which culminates in their wedding. Commodore Global shows his PR savvy by milking this wedding for all its worth, broadcasting it knowing that the Zentraedi are watching.

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This, actually turns out to soak Global’s hands in the blood of 6 billion human beings, as the event convinced Bodolle Zer to stop faffing around and decisively exterminate all humans and all exposed to their (cultural) contagion. In this episode, the love story is in the foreground, the imminent destruction of humanity in the background.

Episode 26 “Messenger”

In a surprising turn of events, Exsedol Folmo is micronized and attempts to seek peace negotiations with the people of the Macross. During the negotiations, Exsedol reveals that the defection of the Zentradi soldiers could be related to a new cultural awakening caused by Minmay’s songs. Hikaru begins to long for Misa, who is still on Earth, trying to convince her father and the UN that the two races may have a chance of co-existing peacefully.

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The Zentraedi ask for parley. I don’t think that they are genetically predisposed to negotiations, and Archivis Exsedol is too much of a scholar to actually make demands of the Miclones. Instead what happens is, highlighted by a terribad rendition of Watashi no kare wo pairotto how Exsedol practically established an accord by himself. It is notable that Britai’s command wherein which he belongs will be annihilated by Bodolle Zer, which makes them have to rely on the psychological power of the Minmay Defense, wherein which he requested she put on a show to accomplish 2 things:

  1. Rally the Zentraedi ‘fans’ in Britai’s command; and
  2. Administer a psychological shock to the Zentraedi yet to be exposed to not only her winsome vocal stylings, but also to her kissing Kaifun.

I appreciate how Exsedol greeted Millya, not without a tinge of envy or at least appreciation of what she’s been able to do (got married).

Episode 27 “Love Drifts Away”

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A epic battle for the Earth takes place when Boddole Zer’s main fleet of over 4,000,000 warships fold above Earth’s atmosphere. Using the power of culture from Lynn Minmay’s singing, the Macross, along with its allied Zentradi fleet, attempts a daring last stand to Boddole Zer’s forces. Heroes will die, a world may fall, but will love prevail?

THE TITLE ALONE, says so much. It’s not called the final battle, or some such. It’s called “Love Drifts Away.” True to form, it starts with Hikaru’s overdue confession to Minmay. The odds of winning against 4,000,000 capitol ships are too much mathematics for me to determine, and he just had to say it now. And while Minmay was turning Hikaru down, Bodolle Zer’s Grand Fleet destroys the entirety of the Earth’s surface in a great extra atmospheric barrage.

There was no further negotiation, no desperate defense mounted to save the Earth. Bodolle Zer didn’t dick around. He never let the Miclone-Zentraedi rebel alliance mount any kind of defense on time. One would expect the Earth to be saved by the good guys. No, not in Macross. This silly love story doesn’t mess around with its climactic battle. It was only after the Earth got scorched, and with the realization that the citizens of Macross city may be among the last survivors of humanity that the alliance gets to counterattack.

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Hikaru in fact, contributes this strategic counterattack involving Minmay. Structurally, what Macross was able to do here is to involve Minmay in a military operation, which puts her on the same stage as Hikaru and Misa – she’s actually the STAR of that very stage wherein a soldier would normally play the leading role. As such, the love triangle is set to be in the foreground of the great battle.

And great indeed it is, while the alliance forces are preparing their counteroffensive, UN SPACY gives Earth its last (and only gasp) when the Grand Cannon fired, destroying an entire section of the Grand Fleet (I can imagine about a quarter million ships lost in that one attack). This attack threw the Bodolle Zer fleet in disarray which created the opening for the alliance forces to begin its counteroffensive.

Another noteworthy thing that happens here is that Hikaru, the main protagonist in the series gets shot down in the middle of the battle. He will not be involved in what would be the victorious barrage against the final boss. He’s not part of it at all. When does this happen in robot anime? NEVER.

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Why does Macross do this? Hikaru piloting his damaged VF-1S to Earth allows him to move on (or, away) from his rejection by Minmay and rescue Misa from the wreckage of the Grand Cannon and put her on his lap in the single-seater cockpit. As Minmay sings “Love Drifts Away” (only for Hikaru, just for today), the battle approaches its climax, Hikaru bids her goodbye in his mind and he finds Misa.

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The Macross punctures Bodolle Zer’s asteroid-sized ship and fires hundreds of reaction warheads, taking it out and the surrounding section of the Grand Fleet. The Macross lands on Earth triumphantly, albeit to find the Earth barren and punctured with holes. Still, with its back against the sun, Hikaru and Misa ride towards it and into the sunset. For now, the triangle is undone, resolved against the background of the greatest battle the Earth has ever seen.

Episode 28 “My Album”

Two years have passed after the final battle with Boddole Zer. The Macross is now a relic of the conflict known as Space War I, and sits in a large lake in barren Alaska. Earth is still a desolate wasteland, and small towns and forests are located miles around Macross City.

The allied Zentradi fleets, along with the citizens from the Macross, maintain a nervous peace. The work to rebuild Earth by both sides is in full swing. Hikaru looks back on the times spent with Roy Focker for advice on what do about his feelings for both Misa and Minmay.

I had always thought that the best way to end a most awesome, feel-good ending is for it not to end. Maybe I started thinking this way when I first saw Macross in 1984 but I doubt it. Now every Macross episode, including “Love Drifts Away,” ended with the ED “Runner” wherein a live action photo album turns to reveal 2D photos which are pin-up-like illustrations of the main cast.

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I thought it only fitting this episode is called “My Album” as it works as the transition to the extended story. It’s both the ED and the preview to the next (arc) episode. A lot can be said about the post-war storyline that very few anime outside of Macross do take on, but I’ll deal with those fun things in the succeeding posts. But for now, it’s enough to acknowledge that 2 years after the great battle, the love triangle is re-forming. Will you love me tomorrow?

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31 Responses to Cho Jikuu Yosai Macross 25-28: Where Kawamori Put His Money Where His Mouth Is

  1. Prague Rock says:

    Good god i love these re-caps, it’s like I’m watching Macross for the first time…again..

  2. Tronulax says:

    It’s funny you should mention it. Everytime I hear “Shouji Kawamori” and “mouth” I immediately think of that preachfest that was Arjuna. It’s nice to remember Macross and the good things.

  3. vendredi says:

    One thing you really notice about older animated works is that they often can and do display a sort of style maturation as the series progresses, whether it be from a more experienced animation staff, better budgeting, or whatnot. Obviously the caps in this post are the finer examples, but overall the quality of animation seems so much higher in these later episodes than in the first few. Just compare the cap of Minmay in this post to the earlier pics of her from your post on episodes 05-08.

    On a slightly unrelated note, I’ve never really been a big fan of Minmay but I recently had the chance to see Flashback 2012 and I must admit my opinion of her has swung over to the considerably more positive.

    • This is for you:

      And since you’re such a swell guy,

      I didn’t expect the quality in this episode to approximate that of the Do You Remember Love? film, but it did my god it did.

      • vendredi says:

        In response, let me leave this:

        “Angel’s Paints” is really a mysterious song. I never watched Macross as a kid or when it originally aired (was always more of a Gundam viewer). It hasn’t even been all that long since I saw Do You Remember Love?… but still, the music of Macross has this ability to trigger a very powerful sense of nostalgia, especially the original Mari Iijima songs, and doubly so for Angel’s Paints. I think that’s part of the real magic of the series; Macross is really just wrapped up in music and because of that it draws on a much more powerful emotive connection than a lot of other series.

        • Yes, exactly.

          Angel’s Paints is the most nostalgic song in the whole damn thing. Let me break it down…

          1. Minmay’s swan song, her happy ending.
          2. 1234 1234 1234 12!
          3. It’s wholly liberated from ‘her’ love story and triangle, making it her own and Hikaru-free
          3.1 This is because it was not written for Macross, this is an Iijima Mari single (IRONY)
          4. As a pop song, it’s an upbeat, bouncy anthem
          5. That outro, so wistful!

          My musician friend who is not a regular anime viewer and hasn’t kept up at all from since childhood would observe from the casual viewings he has of anime EDs that anime songs have this incredible wistfulness in them, no doubt aided by the visual aspects of just about every ED, but I do agree. This is definitely the case with AP, the wistfulness is so strong, and if I had to identify a specific part, it’s the outtro/coda.

          • Xard says:

            I too hold deep, deep love for Tenshi no Enogu, both the classic. original and Nakajima’s really lovely cover. It’s my favourite song from original Macross right after Ai Oboete Imasuka. Hell, the whole Flash Back 2012 is worth it for the song/sequence alone even if one were to consider the rest as pointless affair. I especially loved the contrast they played with “young” and “adult” (she’s only 18 here! Mikimoto sure succeeded in his attempt to make her look around 30 :)) Minmay in that scene. It was a beautiful, graceful “goodbye” for character of Minmay and all of original Macross and I think in that one sequence it was shown just how fond of Minmay Kawamori was in the end. I mean, if one looks at development of her portrayal from series to DYRL to 2012…

            Of course it’s also “the last ride to sunset” scene if there ever was one in Macross. It always leaves me with split feelings of loss and fullfillment. I want to see more of these characters and their lives but I’m also very aware anything more would just be…wrong.

            I also agree with vendredi on the emotional connection and the role music plays in Macross in general.

  4. megaroad1 says:

    Love the writeup Ghost! And I particularly appreciate you posting the little staff references on the side of the Macross. I’d never noticed them before.

  5. Reid says:

    After recently finishing the TV show and watching “DYRL?” for the first time, it’s interesting to me how many changes there really were between the two. Of course, as we know, “DYRL?” is a historical drama movie within the fictional Macross universe, so there’s no doubt that there would be some “creative licences” taken by the director, but I have to wonder, did Hikaru, Misa and the others watch the movie in the 2040s and say “HEY, IT DID NOT HAPPEN THAT WAY AT ALL” like so many people did when even minor historical facts are changed for dramatic effect (or laziness) like in, say, “Pearl Harbor”?

    • Duuuuuude, strap yourself down and keep away from sharp objects because this is going to make you RAEG: Is Kawamori’s Macross Your Macross?

      • Reid says:

        Raeg is right. If that’s what the man says, then it must be true, however sad it makes me. How do you not feel cheated by the whole thing? I’m feeling pretty cheated right now (kind of like when I saw the movie “Inception” – the ending of which I predicted from the get-go, by the way). However, I guess this goes a long way toward explaining some of the elements of Macross that are the least believable. Namely, how the power of music saves lives and kicks major alien booty whenever the plot demands it, as well as how every show has a melodramatic love triangle. This might actually HELP with the suspension of disbelief on the savvy viewer’s part: we can just accept that it’s all “fictional” even within the context of the show itself, so there’s no need to get worked up about, say, who Alto should really end up with, etc.

        Still, I’m more than a little ticked off right now.

        • vendredi says:

          Personally, I wish more long-running series would take this approach. I can’t really think of any examples where a strong body of canon really helps the storytelling in the long run; inevitably I find having a strongly defined canon simply chokes the life and vigour out of other works and creates a daunting barrier toentry by new viewers. The big name American comics – Marvel and D.C., are good examples of this. The Star Wars Expanded Universe is another; and to a lesser extent the Gundam U.C. continuity. Macross is light-handed enough though that you can jump into any series without regard for the others.

          • Reid says:

            See, I find this approach to be extremely frustrating because I want to know what “really happens.” I’m one to track down every single obscure scrap of U.C. Gundam novels or manga that flesh out even the most mundane nuances of the story (maybe even the tiniest bit). As for Marvel and DC, those are hard to “jump into,” you’re right; which is why every couple of years they have to start everything over again and say “the universe resest itself” or “this is an alternate universe”. And that makes it really hard to keep up with what the “real story” actually is. However, you can’t really compare comics that have been in the running monthly for 60+ years toa 30-year old anime series. There aren’t THAT many U.C. Gundam shows, for one, and also, the characters themselves have their run and then are replaced by new characters as time goes on. The trouble with American comic superheroes is that they never get any older.

        • I’ve come quite far from how I first felt about this, which is similar to how you’re taking it now.

          Vendredi makes a lot of sense here, and what he says gives me the freedom to just expect anything from the future. There’s possibility and freedom there.

          What I do give up is the ability to easily say who did what and how. I’ll have to provide appropriate context for each statement about character and history. In the long run, I’m okay with this.

        • Pterobat says:

          THANK. YOU.

          I find my feelings hard to put into words: I want to respect absolutely the right of production staff to take the series in the directions they see fit, and not have to put the audience into consideration, and yet I am eternally frustrated with Macross’ approach, and cringe a bit whenever Kawamori’s name is brought up, never mind that he had a large hand in creating this series in the first place. I feel as though there is no objective complaint I could make about the issue, and could only express my personal annoyance with it..

          ….which is no small part because the original Exsedol Folmo was my favourite character in SDFM, and his revamped version got rid of almost everything that made him likable, and it’s worse when I have no idea why they would do that. But on a larger scale,this kind of lack of stability, the potential for everything to be lost on a writer’s whim, is pretty aggravating. What’s the point of getting attached to anything if it’s all going to change at a moment’s notice?

          • Reid says:

            I feel you, Pterobat. If Kawamori is to be believed, maybe I’d be right in assuming, as I have all along, that the actual “real-world” of the Macross metaverse is the one portrayed in “Super Dimension Century Orguss”. I hypothesize that the people of that future crapsack world wanted to escape from the horrible reality of daily life by inventing a fun story where music and teen idols can save the world while their boyfriends fly around in super-advanced fantastic versions of their own “real-world” variable fighters. For the record, Kei Katsuragi’s pre-cataclysm AV-11D “Bronco II” is by far the best representation of a variable-type aircraft/mecha since it doesn’t rely on alien overtechnology mumbo-jumbo to exist, even in the context of its own fictional narrative.

            Also for the record, this post was purely a joke. 100 percent bullcrap. :) Does this count as a troll?

  6. Pterobat says:

    LOVE these episodes for the most part. “The Messenger” is my favourite SDFM episode, and the rest, they’re great fun.

    I still have reservations about “Virgin Road”, which is the mild way of putting it. I recognize the symbolic value of the marriage, but the way the characters got together makes me fee sour. If your interpretation was true, and the entire incident with Max and Milia is meant to be tongue-in-cheek from the get-go, then it’s easier to take, but my view is that it’s meant to be seen at face value: an idealized romance of love conquering all, even a woman with murder on her mind.

    Anyway, “The Messenger” is my favourite episode because, yes, I adore Exsedol Folmo. He runs the gamut from goofy comic relief to intelligent advisor and back again, and all of it feels natural and makes him a very endearing character. In addition, the Zentradi are taking their first steps towards freedom. Though Exsedol would likely view it as a survival mechanism, he’s shown interest in the human side before, and it’s a pity the storyline never let him develop a life in addition to transferring his military role. Oh, and his impression of Minmay is *hilarious*, especially for the creaking, halting way Ryunosuke Obayashi sings it.

    “Love Drifts Away” isn’t the first time in SDFM Hikaru’s been removed from the main action. He was a civilian in the early episodes, but he was still trapped in the bowels of the Fortress when all the “real” action was going on outside. It does speak to the personal nature of Macross, that it’s about characters as much as the mecha action narrative.

    Unlike the fuss over Roy’s death, which seems to come from the unfortunate feeling that death in cartoons is a revelation, the Zentradi razing of Earth is still shocking and revelatory to one used to such things.

    I haven’t started searching for freeze-frame grabs yet, so good eye on those signatures out of the many that have already shown up. Funny that Hideaki Anno is linked to both Macross and Evangelion, my two favourite mecha works.

    Viewing Macross as an idealized work extends to its depiction of a post-apocalyptic world. Perhaps any survival of this population is unrealistic, but I’m pleased that the series allows for them to live reasonably normal lives. I flip-flop on the value of these last episodes, though. I recognize the value of denouement, and things don’t feel *quite* resolved by the end of ep. 27, but OTOH, the love triangle feels artificially extended, and makes Hikaru look like a cad in the process. The focus also narrows just to the three main characters and to Kamjin’s rebellion, largely, and as a result the series seems less rich.

    • Oh, I think the extension of the narrative is what separates SDFM from everything else. We already know how it’ll be without it: Do You Remember Love?

      With Virgin Road, and with everything in Macross, it is tongue-in-cheek. It’s a show for adolescents and children. The maturity in it makes it tempting to read is as some kind of mature and elevated work but ultimately SDFM is goofy, wacky, violent, and puerile entertainment for kids that happens to have a whole lot of nuance and quality… as opposed to a high-minded and mature work that happens to have deep flaws.

      I can’t even take the love triangle that seriously, with its very lonely characters acting like fools almost the whole time. Sure, they’re teenagers or post-adolescents in positions of authority/responsibility. But I do remember being their age and taking myself hilariously serious and treating everything that happened to me as tumultuous historical events.

      I find SDFM brilliant in its lack of overt heroism in its characters, in how Hikaru and Max can be ‘cool’ and have great reputations but are quite ordinary and unremarkable as individuals really. Also cool is how they’re really not these incredible Cassanovas. Max is ‘slick’ in that his wife is clueless about everything. Hikaru bumbles and bungles through his romance. Roy was the smooth loverboy, and yet behaved as the most loyal and stable of romantic halves.

      Interesting stuff, these love stories.

      • Pterobat says:

        SDFM is, like most of the anime that we first thought was so “adult”, is in fact made for a younger audience and to sell model kits and stuff–and more to the point, it revels in sensibilities that only a younger audience could be thought to accept: a world where songs and love can save the day.

        But I really can’t put a blanket of irony over the entirety of the series. It’s irony that would seem more “adult”, in fact, while what characterizes SDF Macross to me is its earnestness. Of course it’s humorous and often hilarious, running the gamut from goofy slapstick to dark Murphy’s Law type scenarios and has its roots in parody…but there are moments that I take entirely at face value, or at least in possessing some degree of both humour/mockery and earnest emotion. As an example, to me the male Zentradi are *both* a riff on fanboy culture and characters reaching for a better existence. Max and MIlia’s relationship is ripe for comedy after they’ve tied the knot, but in their joining together I can’t but see an intention of a “love conquers all” narrative.

        • Even so. Even if there’s nothing within the show that resembles people truly loving each other, and instead showing what can be hilarious and/or frustrating displays of infatuation, it can be earnest about “love conquering all.” But this doesn’t really impact much of what I said. This ‘message’ doesn’t change things much: it’s a love story set against the backdrop of great battles. It’s a love story of gooey-headed teenagers and post-adolescents. Your ‘moments’ are the exceptions that underscore the predominance of the lighthearted tongue-in-cheek execution of it all. It isn’t cynical, which is what I suspect would bother you.

  7. Kuro says:

    Remembering love like it was yesterday…

  8. shinmarizu says:

    Longtime reader / infrequent poster here:
    Just to let you know that I enjoy all the writing here on WRL, from the Macross to the Cowboy Bebop (which I am looking forward to more of your insight).
    If only I could find time and effort to express my thoughts and views as effectively.
    Now that I’ve finished sucking up, back to remembering love…

    • Thank you, the next CB post will drop in a few days. I am not that young, I spent many many years writing to get to this level where I don’t embarrass myself too often. So here’s what I say. Go ahead and write, comment, talk, just go do it. Sucking can’t be helped. Experience can cause less of it to happen though. After all, it’s been almost 3 years since I started WRL. I’d like to think I’ve come way forward in my own way. But all of us have to start somewhere. Delaying will just prolong the suck.

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  10. Matt Wells says:

    Sorry for the delay in posting this, internet problems. I can’t put anywhere near the emotion and thought you do into your Macross write ups; the show, while excellent, doesn’t inspire in me this wellspring of genius it does in you. I’ll try regardless.

    25. You can really see how rushed and inserted the Max/Milia relationship was here, if only in the animation quality. I’ve seen Toei weekly shows with better animation. I’VE SEEN STUDIO PIERROT WEEKLY SHOWS WITH BETTER ANIMATION. And how did Milia’s lips suddenly change colour and her nail polish come off? Of all the underdeveloped threads in the series, I wish Max and Milia got the screentime they deserved. It still has power and gets the job done, but it could be so much better.

    Global milks the wedding for all its worth, primarily to quiet the edgy civilian population unhappy with their 30 or so Zentradi defectors. Subtle politics on his part. The idea of examining Global like you would a historical figure is fascinating, something that you can only really pull off in larger, long running franchises like Macross. In his defence, the level of Culture shock he inflicted seemed to vary in-universe: I didn’t see the Britai fleet spazzing out and atomising Earth for fraternisation with the enemey like Bodolle Zer did. Global was at the end of his tether and fighting a war for survival. Any action he could take to limit the Zentradi was a necessary one, regrettable though the outcome was.

    I know that later episodes remedy this, but I wish in their first engagement Milia had gotten her own Valkyrie, though going into battle with her new hubby IS pretty romantic. I would be more impressed with their nupitals if you hadn’t beaten them at their own game, you sly rogue! :) Lisa attempts at proposing peace are heartfelt, BUT COME THE FUCK ON. You’re from an ancient military family, and your father has his finger on the trigger on the greatest case of man overcompensating for natural inadequacies in the history of War Anime. Did you think they WEREN’T going to fire it if you asked nicely? Not to dump on Misa, but after the Macross’ exile she should know better.

    26. Britai’s fleet mutinies simply because culture is cool and different, and the poor man is reduced to parley, doubtless humiliating for a seasoned warrior. Britai and Global are both officially too old to deal with all this Protoculture alien shit. I felt older just watching the two guys struggle through this tragi-comic farce. Lapla’miz phones in to Zer like a good foot soldier, and gets annihilation for her troubles. If there is any character with potential in this series wasted, its her alright. Kamjin arrogantly leaves rather than assist his old foe, again in line with the Alien Rival arhetype (only to come back and save the day at the last minute of course).

    Exedol makes a damn fine diplomat all things considered, and the sight of him mumbling his way through every stuttered KYUUN KYUUN left me pissing myself laughing. He also seemed rather good natured about the whole defection thing, I only liked the guy more after this ep. His Macross 7 version of the same song felt too much like a William Shatner cover, he spoke the song in a funny way rather than singing it awfully. And Kaifun is a total dickbreath even when he’s involved in the bloody peace process!!! “Blah blah military bad…whats that sbout peace? Using Minmay’s talent? FOR FREE?!!! Fuck that shit, give me a dollar!!”

    Episode 27. Now THAT’S how you do an epic space battle!!! Compared to the big budget treatment this sequence got in Do you Remember Love?, the TV version stands out very well. Thanks to this post I caught the staff references, but I missed the elusive Orguss Valkyrie! Might you recommend the other Super Dimension series, like Mospedia or Orguss? Both seem somewhat satisfying and clever takes on the genre, particuarly Orguss’ dimensional crossover gimmick.

    Hikaru finally get closure with Mnimay, just in time to see the world burn. The only other series I know of that has the balls to just outright say “The World dies, Fuck You, The End” is Space Warrior Baldios, a classic Super Robot show where the losing bad guys decide to ruin trhe Earth’s climate and murder all humanity that way in revenge. To do it in such a relatively light show like Macross takes real balls, and I applaud Kawamori and his staff for that. I was also glad with the jumpcut fake out where we see the two really DID kiss before the Lynn’s grossed out an entire alien species witheir creepy incest kiss. Warmed the cockles of my hoary heart.

    And like you note, few series remove the main character from the final battle completely, and for three times Macross has done so. That takes so much chutzpah I applaud Nue for getting away with such cheeky hijinks in the first place. Minmay moves on with her life, our Hero and Heroine live happily ever after…for little more than 2 years before it all goes pearshaped. After the War drama in the sunniest real franchise ever? The King Troll has Balls of Steel.

    28. Love how cracks are already rife in Misa and Hikaru’s feledgling relationship, love how Hikaru still turns to his mentor for advice, love how deeply the boy has Minmay on the Brain, love that there are already Zentradi flying beside Hikaru in his Flight Squadron mere years after SPW 1, and I love a happy kids show telling its viewers that there is no such thing as a fairy tail ending, love conquers all triumph. We live, we love, we are betrayed, and we are dead. Its like its screaming the utter futlilty of life to 10 year olds as it sells them plastic models…though I am pretty tired now, excuse me.

    I also loved how in the wake of rebuiliding Kaifun became a feckless, bitter drunken alcohlic. The Kung Fu Dandy is tormented, and I am pleased. But blaming the military for the loss of 99% of the World’s population? And using your cousin’s fame to promote your dickish and shallow priciples, whilst constantly badmouthing the same UN Spacy that spared the enitre planet? You just REDEFINED prick. Great stuff, now bring on the ending!

    • Again I appreciate the effort you put into these comments. It honors me.

      I don’t expect you, nor anyone to match the feeling and effort I put into these posts… after all, I am a lifelong fan of the show and the franchise and it is this very love for Macross that pretty much distinguishes me as a fan of anime, or of anything, really. To attempt to match me in this is endearing… but Quixotic.

      I do agree with you that the Max x Millya story got shafted in terms of production values. They were there as a side show really, and my goodness it was a damn good side show. The horrors of animation here is why I am never averse to re-works, re-tellings, and rebuilds. If Gundam: the Origin gets an anime adaptation, then Macross: the First should follow as well.

      I will be rewatching DYRL soon (or later, as it is an annual tradition to watch in on 9/11 — Zentran-Miclone Armstice Day) so I’ll reserve my comparison between the final battles in the two works until then. They give me very different, yet cathartic feelings. DYRL’s is more romantic, of course; complete with Hikaru blasting Bodolle Zer’s face himself. It’s a completely different thing from the very subtle and complex (in comparison) TV series.

      The next arc I believe really puts this series over the top of the rest (of course, the final arc too, but), yeah it’s the post-war messiness (but not too messy) that separates this show from most others.

      I haven’t really seen Orguss yet apart from the skimming I’ve done of the files that I have, and Mospaeda I only know via Robotech. You’ll have to discover these for yourself someday, but there’s a lot of Macross left.

      • Matt Wells says:

        My spelling in that last post was nothing short of a war crime. Last time I comment at 4am in the morning. My apologies. I’m looking forward to Do You Remember Love?, there’s a Region 0 DVD out there that apparently comes with great subtitles and a soundtrack CD. While it might lack the scope and dimension of the TV series, the action and animation more than make up for it, and its fun to see a different, more “Hollywood” take on the events of Space War 1.

        I would be more excited by the prospect of Macross the First if I knew the actual changes Mikimoto made to the storyline, but the lack of English scans sadly hampers that. When I finish SDF, I will have a LOT of Macross backlog to get through, but I’d like the time to concentrate on other properties, at least for the moment. I just bought a ton of Anime on
        Amazon.co.uk, and I’d like to cleanse my palate rather than get swallowed by a wave of back material to sift through. Thank you as ever for your feedback.

        And speaking of Max and Milia’s wedding, have you seen this?

        http://www.toplessrobot.com/2010/10/super-dimensional_wedding_cake_macross.php

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