Are Black Swans in Anime Bad Writing? A Comparative Analysis of Gundam 00 Episode 7 and Code Geass Episode 22

Mechafetish here, and while I don’t post nearly as often as I want to, I get to practice modern finance which is a great passion of mine. Ghostlightning is also a practitioner when he’s not test-flying the latest variable fighters on Fokker Base back on Eden (or dicking around on twitter). An important idea in finance right now is that of the Black Swan. Simply put, these are moments of SPECTACULAR DISASTROUS FAIL.

A Swan. Not really black and not really FAIL...

A Swan. Not really black and not really FAIL...

A Black Swan event is an idea presented by the trader-turned-philosopher Nassim Nicholas Taleb. He’s a favorite of ours since early this year. Similar to how we feel about Macross Frontier, ghostlightning is a retarded fanboy and is totally gay for Taleb, while I keep my head a little bit more. Do check his works out, as they’re quite a mindscrew.

During the beginnings of the age of modernity and enlightenment, the scientific method (empirical) was becoming more fashionable than the deductive method or the use of pure reason to get at facts and truth. It wasn’t enough that a theory was reasonable or logical. It had to be demonstrable and observable. Thus, naturalists started making all sorts of conclusions based on observable data.

The concept of the Black Swan is taken from the discourse that involved a scientific claim that after many many observations of swans, it is concluded that all swans are white. The thing is, it only takes the observation of one black swan for the whole ‘truth’ to be proven false. True enough, a species of swan with distinctively black feathers was discovered soon enough (in Australia if I’m not mistaken). The scientists who made the original ‘white’ claims had more than pie on their faces.

Mmmmm... Pie...

Mmmmm... Pie...

A Black Swan event is defined as a highly improbable event with three principal characteristics:

  1. It is unpredictable
  2. It carries massive impact
  3. After the fact, we concoct an explanation that makes the event appear less random and more predictable than it was.

Taleb offers these examples: the success of Google, the events of 9/11, and the current financial crisis. No one really predicted (1) the how a company with a good search algorithm will change the business of advertising and the way people live their lives (2). But the historians explain it as some kind of inevitability due to how the mass of information on the web needed to be organized (3).

So what does this have to do with anime?

Let’s begin by framing anime as a world with rules constructed by the creator(s) and assumed by the audience. It is when the intended rules of the creators and the assumed rules of the audience do not conform, or even conflict with each other, that we get an black swan event in anime.

A Black Swan event in a narrative may be a plot twist, but is not limited to that category. This will depend primarily on the execution of such a plot development relative to the rest of the strory. This is because, random events in a narrative are not analogous to real world random events in that they are still part of a structure designed toward a particular purpose, which is to tell a story.

Plot twists or developments (events) in fiction are created in the service of telling a story. Real life stories are told to make sense of real life events (see #3 above). As such, a well executed plot twist, no matter how unpredictable (1), or important (2), allows us to retroactively rationalize it (3) relative to our expectations with minimal discomfort.

I feel this is relevant in light of the most recent events as portrayed in episode 7 of Gundam 00. Although I’m not as interested in arguing on the virtues or flaws of this particular episode (suffice to say that I RAGED along with most of the blogosphere), for those of you who are interested, the pros and cons of the episode have been argued extensively here, and here.

Soma doesnt get it either.

Soma doesn't get it either.

What I want to talk about is how jarring and unexpected this particular plot development was owing to its execution. Honestly, did anyone expect Soma and Hal to get together because of brainwave Haxx this early in the series? Yes, we always suspected that they would either end up together or kill each other. Indeed, for many of us for whom Soma had become a favourite character, the resolution of this conflict was anxiously awaited.

I think this is the reason this plot development is generating so much antipathy on the net. The suddenness by which it happened does not seem to conform to our (the audience’s) assumed/expected rules governing the 00 verse.

But what rule was violated here? Clearly, as Kaioshin says, we know that Marie would regain her memory and that she was being brought closer to Hal with every flashback even as early as the first season. The two characters were being drawn inexorably towards each other with every headache, scream and “boku wa-ing” (mostly entirely by Al). Let us look into this using a thought experiment:

Imagine that this particular resolution of the Soma/Allelujah storyline happened in episode 23 instead of episode 7 of the series. During the course of the resolution, a pattern of events goes this way:

  1. Hal and Soma meet (on the battlefield or otherwise)
  2. Awesome fight or emo “look into your feelings” stuff
  3. Brainwave Haxx
  4. One of them walks away with a new recovered memory, or other ammo for their emotive displays.

And this continues until episode 23 when one or both of them undergoes Brainwave Haxx and makes them fall in love with each other.

Would this resolution be as bad? Would the same amount of RAEGHAET be harvested from the forum denizens, the anons of /m/, and the comments sections of the blogs that cover the show? Assuming the writers never planned any other plot twist for this storyline (my guess based on the the early timing of its resolution), this is precisely what we would have gotten had they conformed to the audience’s timing expectations for such plot resolution. It’s hardly compelling as a storyline, but what would this timing difference have done for the audience?

Bout would 23 more episodes of this have been so bad?

But would 23 more episodes of this have been so bad?

I believe it would have allowed us to more clearly distinguish the rules governing the Brainwave Haxx plot device and align our expectations accordingly. The whole Alellujaj x Marie thing did not become a become a Black Swan event because of the actual plot items, but because of the timing of/in their presentation/execution.

The timing was unpredictable, the consequences are considerable, and the inevitability can be easily explained away in hindsight. This is how I frame Gundam 00 episode 7 as a Black Swan.

Let’s take a look at another event in anime that can be considered a Black Swan, but one that at least as far as I know, was considerably more well received than the previous example. The “Bloodstained Euphie” episode (Ep. 22) of Code Geass (R1) was, arguably, one of the best plot twists in all anime. Like the previous example, there is NO WAY anyone saw this coming. Even if there is every indication that Lulu intends to do something untoward hinted at by the preceding episode, these were immediately dispelled in the minutes leading to the fateful event. Lulu and Euphie were enjoying an intimate honesty, Lulu could be himself and it was quite a beautiful moment. Then comes the massacre. Code Geass is so much fun in that it really plays with the audience’s expectations to a greater degree than most anime.

See! Even Yuffie is having fun!

See! Even Yuffie is having fun!

Here’s what’s interesting, I along with anyone I know who has ever watched the show, was thinking “it can’t possibly end like this” the whole time, particularly because of the where the narrative was at that point. Since it was just a few episodes away from the perceived ending of the series, the audience is automatically conditioned for an escalation of the existing conflicts, or the creation of a new and even greater conflict. We were expecting this kind of shit to hit the fan, and it did.

So we see here that in this instance, the creator’s (perceived) intentions and execution were aligned with the expectations of the audience, insofar as the narrative flow of the story is concerned. No rules are violated and the Black Swan is created by the unexpected nature of the event.

The fundamental difference in the two examples of Black Swans In Gundam 00, a black swan event occurs because an expected event happens at an unexpected time, while in Code Geass, an unexpected event occurs at an expected time. And I think this is the reason for all this RAGE.

When the creators begin presenting his work to an audience, they are explicitly or implicitly laying the rules underlying its narrative structure. The audience, then begins to formulate expectations based on what the creators initially convey. Are the physics realistic? Do the characters behave like children or adults? How does all this newtype Haxx work? Further, the creators are also working with rules and conventions established within the particular genre he is working in as well as those they have established in their past works. By following some of these rules and conventions, the creators are able to bring together a particular audience as well as maintain a delicate suspension of disbelief. On the other hand, by bending these rules or breaking them at certain points in the story, the creators are able to establish narrative tensions. This way, the creators are able to carefully manage the expectations of the audience and align them with what they want them to feel during different parts of the work. Naoki Urasawa in particular is a master of this.

Once you go black...

Once you go black...

A black swan comes about when the creators orchestrate random events within the framework of the rules they have set (note: not necessarily the rules the audience is aware of). However, the explainability of the event is critical to the audience maintaining its suspension of disbelief. A black swan that occurs so far from the framework of the rules as to be non-explainable may break such suspension of disbelief for the audience. When the creators do something seemingly random with nothing more than a handwave and a “Yup! Didn’t you know? Brainwave Haxx really works that way!” It seems like they’re not playing the game fairly with the audience.

So in the end, are Black Swans in Anime necessarily bad writing? The answer of course, is no. Black swans encompass many of the tools necessary for the author to diferentiate his work and keep it fresh. A well executed black swan within carefully controlled circumstances allow a work to transcend its genre, and an author’s body of work. It is all too easy however, to miss-time or miss-execute a black swan event. When an audiences expectations are violated too far, disinterest, or even extreme RAGE may follow.

Gundam 00 may have resolved a plot point too far away from the audience’s expected time of resolution. I think it would be interesting to do a statistical study on the amount of hate-posts/hate-comments generated for a similar plot resolution with varying times of execution approaching the end of a series. I suspect that the closer you get to the end, the less hate we will see.

But here’s a final question? Which of these two events is more realistic or likely to happen in the real world?

Sad to say, but the instant, ready made romance of Gundam 00 is more likely to happen to you than accidentally causing the death of your sister as a cruel subversion of the confluence of events that conspired to give you everything you ever wanted in life.

When 9/11 happened, there was no slow build up of events, climax or poetic irony. There was only instantaneous sound, noise and horror. Then, we made stories to explain to ourselves the nature of what is truly a random and senseless event. Real life is like that. You go out to have coffee then BAM brainwave Haxx.

More likely to happen to you...

More likely to happen to you...

However, the stories that we do write to make sense of these events, as well as the stories that come after, like the heroism of 9/11 or the philanthropy and dynamism of google, are truly very interesting. Although their occurence may be random, true narratives can be precipitated by black swans. In this sense, there is hope for Gundam 00. Rather than give us the monotony of 17 or so further episodes of the Al v. Soma dynamic, the creators bravely opted to cut their losses and start with something different. It may not have been the best or most literary black swan (okay, it was pretty terrible), but it certainly resmbled black swans in real life. As such, maybe it can lead to something new and better for all of us gundam fans.

Hoping for the best till next time.

Mechafetish came.

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22 Responses to Are Black Swans in Anime Bad Writing? A Comparative Analysis of Gundam 00 Episode 7 and Code Geass Episode 22

  1. My dad read the black swan and told me all about it and I do find it intriguing.

    I can’t believe you didn’t manage to mention the god of all black swans, the last 2 episodes of Evangelion (which, by the way, I strongly support.)

    Yes, Euphie’s thing was fucking awesome. I imagine the negative kind of black swan would be like most of the second half of Escaflowne but I haven’t seen Gundam 00 to know where your comparison comes from.

  2. lolikitsune says:

    Interesting post, and good points on Teeif’s part. Code Geass jumped the shark so many times, it was pretty much a seagull flying overhead… the massacre really doesn’t stand out that much, and it (along with almost the entirety of R2) was pretty much expected in spirit (though not in form).

  3. animekritik says:

    I’m not watching Gundam either (I thought I was the only one), but definitely an unexpected development at the right time is really thrilling, while an expected twist at the wrong time (prematurely, usually) is deplorable.

    The Euphie ep was great because, as you said, we knew it was the time for something to come down, we just didn’t know what.

    In the end the most satisfying of all might be the expected development at the right time, and this is what has Gundam fans crying: “We was robbed!”

  4. bakaraptor says:

    Johann eating the Monster that went West was definitely a Black Swan if I’ve ever seen one.

  5. mechafetish says:

    @ 21stcenturydigitalboy

    I know there are a lot of black swan events in anime that I have yet to tackle. I just used ones that were a bit fresh in my mind. The theory is still very raw and subject to further refinement.

    The end of Eva is indeed an excellent example and one that I now plan to use in a subsequent post.

    @ Teeif

    You know your stuff. One of the ideas that I mull over in the article is the fundamental difference between real life and literary black swans. Real life black swans are truly unexpected/random events, however, literary black swans appear to have a mix of the expected and the unexpected.

    In the case of Code Geass, the black swan itself is expected, but the type is not, hence the effective generation of “surprise” in the audience. I agree however that, by season 2, the use of such massive black swan events with such frequency had worn thin to the point that the audience’s suspension of disbelief had been frayed or broken. This is the reason I deliberately chose an example from season 1 and excluded season 2 from the discussion.

    With regard to your comment:

    “I fear that trying to apply something which seeks to describe events in economics, albeit using observations on nature, to in turn describe creative entertainment is destined to fail because actually, a writer’s imagination has no rules, even the ones he creates for him/herself.”

    I have no illusions that this theory will definitively explain the writing process of an anime creator. Indeed, history has shown that the application of tools from across disciplines can result in massive FAIL (i.e. Physics tools in finance).

    However, I feel that enough similarities exist to make the above an interesting and fun point of discussion. I will definitely use your input to further improve this theory of literary black swans until the point that it is acceptable or, alternatively, a definitive black swan is found disproving it once and for all.

    @ lolikitsune

    Indeed, as stated above, the literary black swan seems to be different in that there is a combination of the expected and the unexpected in the event. As you said, in Code Geass, the occurrence of events themselves are expected, yet the forms of the events are not. In subsequent posts, I will try to refine this theory by exploring more such events in other anime.

    @ animekritik

    Although I agree with your points, I personally don’t feel that we have enough observations to generalize that strangely-timed black swans are all deplorable. We will be exploring more events later on in order to further refine our theory.

    @ bakaraptor

    Hehe. Yes. A black swan in another series full of them. Perhaps we can take a look at Monster in a subsequent post.

  6. ghostlightning says:

    When I take on the role as a reader, the author is dead. The text is the only thing, and I refrain from second-guessing the decisions the supposed author makes as if it’s the source of my enjoyment and appreciation of the subject.

    Not to say that these discussions don’t have a place. I think writing workshops and conversations regarding the craft of writing are great at this.

    So I’d rather talk about the text without the author:

    Black Swan events within a narrative I think is better (as in cleaner) discussed within the universe of the subject. Euphie’s turn is quite disastrous and can yield a lot of interesting discussion in the context of Britannian governance and the Japanese state as it were. It becomes very problematic to frame it as a Black Swan for me the reader.

    Why? The only thing it impacts is my appreciation of the show. It doesn’t influence me in how not to trust masked high school students, geass powers, and the like. It has no bearing on my life other than making me go: OMG Euphy did WHAT? The subjectivity, the range of reactions, can vary wildly.

    If you want to pursue this, the impact has to be in reality (i.e. murders influenced by Death Note).

    So I suggest that framing the impact within the show’s elements (people, environment, culture) can make for a better application of the Black Swan theory, but I’m not so sure it’ll remain as interesting a subject.

  7. gah, you guys need to do more to show you are alternating authors. You talk about so much of the same shit that I always just assume it’s ghosty. Go look how they do it on Drastic my Anime Blog and emulate that.

  8. mechafetish says:

    @ ghostlightning

    “Black Swan events within a narrative I think is better (as in cleaner) discussed within the universe of the subject. Euphie’s turn is quite disastrous and can yield a lot of interesting discussion in the context of Britannian governance and the Japanese state as it were. It becomes very problematic to frame it as a Black Swan for me the reader.”

    Precisely. Without discussing the intention of the author, all black swans in a narrative will be textbook black swans.

    “Why? The only thing it impacts is my appreciation of the show… The subjectivity, the range of reactions, can vary wildly.”

    You will recall that the purpose of this post is partly to explain precisely the almost unified RAGEHATE reaction to the Gundam 00 episode. These are subjective reactions.

    “If you want to pursue this, the impact has to be in reality (i.e. murders influenced by Death Note).”

    You know that this line of questioning is meaningless and impossible to quantify.

    “So I suggest that framing the impact within the show’s elements (people, environment, culture) can make for a better application of the Black Swan theory, but I’m not so sure it’ll remain as interesting a subject.”

    Again, meaningless. All black swans in a narrative are intended to be so and, as such, are textbook.

    “When I take on the role as a reader, the author is dead. ”

    This approach probably works for you. Maybe its my lack of a lit education, but I derive great utility from attempting to decipher the author’s intentions/motivations.

  9. schneider says:

    >I can’t say how a ‘black swan’ affected Gundam 00 because I have simply refused to watch anything so commercially geared towards selling plastic robo kits

    And Code Geass isn’t? 😛

    With that out of the way… I thought the ZOMG JOVIAN twist in Nadesico was very much black swan, because I’ve never experienced something similar back then.

    The end of the original Getter Robo show could also count. As kid-friendly as 70s super robot shows were, Getter broke away from the norm by killing off a main character. And so the manly death became commonplace.

  10. ghostlightning says:

    @ digitalboy

    We talk about the same shit because we just happen to like the same shit. It’s the cards we’re dealt. When he writes more often his distinct voice will come out more.

    But really, a lot of what we write here we bounce off each other anyway.

    Also, you can look at the byline and check if it reads “Ghosty” 😉

    @ Mechafetish


    Search “Intentional Fallacy” on Wikipedia. Afterwards, if you still want to derive authorial intention, go ahead and ask them – because deciphering intention from texts is problematic. I suspect that the utility of deciphering the author’s intention is contingent to the accuracy the method (whatever it is) is capable of. If you see how much in terms of variance is lurking, you may derive no utility whatsoever.

    @ schneider

    Gurren Lagann was planned so as to sell toys. You didn’t watch that one too?

    The best part about Gundam 00 are the ‘advertisements’ for the mecha! Meaning, battles and mobile suits going smash and PEW PEW PEW. I certainly am not watching it for Al x Marie. Gosh.

    Search “Intentional Fallacy” in Wikipedia. Divorcing the text from the author will also free you.

  11. schneider says:

    @ ghostlightning

    Egad! I’ve been had. And I’ve always thought of Gurren as a homage! Now you tell me those Revoltechs after all were the main goal? *rage*

    But… but I watch 00 for its themes. I mean, it’s very relevant to our time and age, right? I swear I did not jack off to the Aheads!


    Shoot me or whatever, but I did actually like episode 7. Srsly. The execution was still surprising but I did think it was better than Al and Marie screaming at each other for another dozen weeks. And at least it did provide Bear the opportunity to be a manly father.

    Also, I think I’ll go with mechafetish on this one. I’m too much obsessed with the production part of anime that I need to know it to understand a show. But sure, why not? Maybe I could find something I could experiment on with your method.

  12. ghostlightning says:

    @ schneider

    At the end of the day how we love what we love is our business. If you get off trying to figure out Sunrise by deciphering the Gundam anime it’s your fetish to fap about.

    There’s nothing inherently wrong about selling toys. I like them and buy them (or just fail at not buying them). Anime exist to sell stuff, as do almost all shows on tv. What bothers you so much about it anyway?

  13. schneider says:

    @ ghostlightning

    …I can’t believe you missed the joke. My last post up to the 3rd paragraph was composed of nothing but outright lies and sarcasm. And I’m still dreaming of Cherudim doing its parallel-to-the-water sniping shtick and I’m planning to replicate it when I get my hands on the kit. 😛

  14. ghostlightning says:

    @ schneider

    I missed it by a mile! O.o

  15. @Teeif: As opposed to what? Selling DVD’s and other assorted merchandise?

    @Ghostlightning: You disappoint me a little for the first time with your clear and outright dismissal of the Gundam concept as a storytelling device and the use of the “PEW PEW PEW” meme to describe what you see as the essence of the franchise. I ask, is it not possible for someone to actually just genuinely like the franchise without having to find an excuse or “figure out it’s production company” or to insist that it’s sole purpose for existing is to sell toys? Remember, without what Gundam did for the mecha genre there would be no Macross.

    As for the whole article, while I agree with much of the analysis and thank the author for clarifying the difference between the unexpected and “bad writing” I’m more then certain at this point that “bad writing” is just another meme/unword, that is part of an expected set of reactions and replies to any event that is…..a “Black Swan”. Curious how that particular dichotomy of the relationship between a show and it’s “fans” works, that the unexpected should often bring about the expected. At least on places such as 4chan and the Ragesphere.

    Though I’ve seen many people in many places that have no problems with episode 08 of Gundam 00 whatsoever. In fact it seems like only 4chan and Crusader were the ones that freaked out over the whole episode, but maybe I just haven’t visited certain places. Mechatalk, Animesuki, Something Awful, ANN, Darkmirage, PSGels, Random Curiousity and me of course, were all apparently fine with it albeit agreeing somewhat that the hastiness with which they kissed was a little much. I don’t see how that’s unified “RAEGHATE”!

    Anyway, thanks for clarifying how the Soma x Allelujah events seen in episode 07 could have been improved upon instead of just complaining about them like so many others did. It gives you far more credibility then other critics of the episode in my opinion.

  16. ghostlightning says:

    @ Kaioshin

    I didn’t mean it as a dismissal. I ask your pardon. I’m not averse to the use of memes as I find the idea a fascinating subject.

    As I’ve said before, the mobile suit battles are the biggest draw for me towards Gundam, as much as the idols throwing concerts to accompany VF dogfights are the biggest draw for me to Macross.

    That makes me appear quite superficial doesn’t it?

    I argue otherwise.

    The intensity of this attraction cannot be dismissed. I’m up 6am interrupting my blogpost writing, to address this comment! If that’s not a marked devotion to Gundam, I don’t know what is. Mechafetish is my Gundam companion – whose gotten me to take on Turn A for a second time (as long as he watches G with me; every single episode of it!), but your distance (I don’t get to see you every week, compared to him) allows for space to reflect on my relationship with Gundam (which is like Kittan to my Yoko, with Macross being Kamina), which grows in every exchange I have with you and IKnight.

    I also realized something yesterday. I am so relieved that I am not an episode blogger. I cannot do what you do and remain consistent. I will flip-flop to extreme ends, that I will end up spending so much time explaining myself just to distinguish myself from the majority of bloggers who covered Code Geass R2.

  17. @Ghostlightning: It’s so bizzare, you’re experience with Gundam is limited and yet you don’t profess to be an expert on the franchise or it’s production company like so many others of equal experience levels. Slow but steady…..what a pleasant rarity……

    All I can suggest as you go through this journey of discovering the Gundam franchise is to learn from the experienced viewers, but try to take what you read on the episodic blogosphere with a grain of salt. Even from me, because I will admit I am pretty pro Gundam and there is little that can get me down about the franchise other than Gundam Seed Destiny. Klashikari has even compared me to Setsuna and claims that I think I am the Gundam. :p

    Might I suggest listening to the Gundam Round Up section of MAHQ’s Gundam podcast though? I think that is probably the best way to get some comprehensive views on each of the Gundam series from some of the longest standing, but also fairest fans around. They’ve got everything up to Gundam Wing covered at this point. I found even I could gain a new perspective on some of the series while watching these and they make it pretty damn accessible for new fans who are interested in taking a look at what Gundam has to offer. In fact that’s more or less their goal:

    And I wonder just how many of those bloggers that followed Code Geass R2 were 4channers looking for lulz and to troll the fans out of some mistaken belief that they were accomplishing anything worth mentioning to their peers. I certaintly got the impression that was what was happening.

    That’s why I think it’s a really bad idea to take much of what you read on the blogosphere as anything other than lulz seeking unless the author can definitively prove otherwise and especially when the subject is popular anime. Better safe than trolled after all.

  18. ghostlightning says:

    Expertise as a badge isn’t something important to me. We Remember Love is about sharing, and not righteousness. I don’t even profess to be an expert on Macross. I would refer people to Otou-san of Shameful Otaku Secret, or Mechafetish over here for balanced views on Macross. I’m an epic lifelong Macross fanboy for at least 24 of its 25 years and that’s a distinction I gladly enjoy.

    I’ve been looking at the MAHQ’s podcast for some time, but now that you recommend it I’ll definitely give it a listen.

    I’ll use a quote of yours in my next post. It’s better than any Setsuna reference, I promise.

    I’ve been watching Sunrise shows before anime was anime (TOEI made Voltes V for/with Sunrise). But I consider them irrelevant when discussing a product of theirs.

    To me it’s like this: I cannot discuss Sunrise in depth without involving Gundam, but I can discuss Gundam in depth without involving Sunrise. The product is a distinct world in its own, whereas the Producers are defined by their products.

    I strongly feel discussions should distinguish this carefully.

  19. @Ghostlightning: Hmmm….interesting, but I prefer to highlight the achievements and failings of specific staff members and feel it should be equally as important to the discussion of certain anime and it’s creators. For example, whereas Yoshiyuki Tomino can be seen as the creator of the Gundam franchise and Seiji Mishizuma as taking it in a more modern direction, Mitsuo Fukuda can be seen as almost single-handedly killing the franchise or at least putting it in a coma for over 3 years and forcing it to regress from a storytelling standpoint. To me a studio is defined by it’s staff members as well as it’s products, and the products are defined by the ideas of the specific staff members that are assigned to it’s production, not by the name of the company or it’s reputation.

    In other words (and to use perhaps the most bizarre metaphor ever) even though Haro is more or less the official mascot of Sunrise and even appears in their media logo now (if you’ve seen MS Igloo you know the one I’m talking about), it doesn’t mean that Haro is there producing the series and making the company successful or that it should represent the face of the company as a whole along with Gundam. I’ve long since felt it was time that individual achievement was recognized just a little bit more in Japan as opposed to emphasis being put on product and corporation and I’d love to see the same change in recognition occur within anime fandom itself.

    I would welcome discussion of the producers more in anime forums and blogs if this depersonalization of the staff could be dispensed with (It reminds me of the stuff Atari used to do) and instead we could see posts along the lines of “Whoever the storyboarder was for this episode, he/she could use some extra polish on his choreagraphy of x scene.”as opposed to “HOLY BAD WRITING *INSERT PRODUCTION COMPANY*!” and pinning of the blame for one minor failing of an episode on the entirety of it’s staff making it look like a crime against humanity. Though perhaps as I suggested earlier we should take it slow and steady and just lead into something like, “HOLY BAD WRITING *INSERT NAME OF EPISODE WRITER*!” 😀

    To finish for the evening I’ll leave you with another one of my mantras:

    No topic is unapproachable, but not every topic is worth approaching.
    Sometimes some things that should normally be said are better left unsaid.
    Sometimes some things that shouldn’t normally be said are the best things to make note of.
    The fine line between progress and stagnation is not always clear to see.
    For even the quickest of us experimentation is the key.

    Do you use MSN Ghostlightning? Would I be able to add you to my list?

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