The Slow March of Progress: Mecha Battles in Gundam AGE 06

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There are a number of interesting things that happened in this latest episode, but what I want to comment on is the presentation of ground-based mobile suit combat. We’ve seen mostly space combat save for the initial fight of the Gundam. Here in this episode we’re shown how mobile suit battles have been fought for what must have been a long time.

It’s not pretty.

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We see what mostly are slow, lumbering, towering mobile suits shoot each other with machine guns with little-to-no-effect. The defensive abilities of the armored humanoid far outstrip the power of available weapons. The resulting dynamic is how the mono-eyed mobile suits slowly trudge towards each other firing at full-auto with their machine gun rifles, hoping to puncture a critical area.

This is stupid.

If kinetic weaponry is so weak relative to armor, then I imagine the obvious immediate alternative is melee weaponry. The weight and strength of the mobile suit would be sufficient to drive such a weapon with destructive force. Since there is little to fear against guns, the mobile suit can simply charge against a rifle formation, and hack/bash its opponents to a crumpled mess.

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But no, they instead walk around shooting each other ineffectively, posing more threat of collateral damage than actual decisive casualties against each other. I swear, tanks are a far better weapon than they are under the circumstances. A tank would have a main cannon far more powerful than their machine guns and would be using the same armor, be lighter and quicker and have a far superior defensive silhouette, compared to the big, slow, target these suits provide.

I want Gundam shows to, at the very least, provide an excuse for the robots. The original mobile suits are a response to Minovsky Particle broadcasts in space rendering all combat impossible unless in visual range. It still doesn’t justify the size of the mobile suits, but I like how they make the excuse anyway.

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What’s AGE’s excuse? Why are there mobile suits? How did fighting evolve into this highly impractical method. I don’t need it to be incredibly possible. I just want the effort made.

What does this week of fools have to say?

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You’re all free to raise things about the episode that I nor the panelists didn’t discuss. In other news, Woolf Enneacle continues to grow on me. That guy is cool.

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58 Responses to The Slow March of Progress: Mecha Battles in Gundam AGE 06

  1. sadakups says:

    Oh yes. They’re no Zakus boys.

  2. ces06 says:

    The Zaku wannabes suck. Which is too bad, since they look better than the Genoaces.

    So mobile suit technology sucks so much because of the treaty they mentioned. Not being able to produce mobile suits, and information on weapons technology being limited to the army alone really puts weapons development at a slow rate. No wonder they’ve been getting their asses kicked by the UE for ten years! it’s funny because in this, they’re showing that the price of peace is losing the ability to defend themselves against greater threats. (Saying “peace sucks” in Gundam? Nice one, lol!) The One Year War was like, one year, and how much did the technology advance during thecourse f under one year? Meanwhile, ten years goes by and in AGE the best grunt they can come up with is the Genoace. Pitiful in comparison.

    But on that matter, by comparison, again, the Gundam looks even more awesome, being far superior both in technology and weaponry than the grunt mechs. (Which makes me shout Y U NO FIGHT to Flit being surrounded at the end. Surrounded? Meh, the grunts look like Dopps compared to the Gundam)

    Which in turn, makes Flit even more awesome, since he built the aforementioned superior mech lol. Also, we see how he CHOSE to fight, and has the resolve as well, which really separates him from a lot of other Gundam protagonists. I just hope his son and grandson won’t suck.

    What I find really hilarious is how they set up barriers to protect the buildings while the fighting happens. I mean, for real? So the people of Fardain are used to the fighting so much, they just chose to accept it as just something unfortunate that happens daily, like rain? it’s both weird and effective, since it shows just how silly and useless the fighting really is. (They weren’t even blowing each other off or proving a point! Just shooting randomly to no avail!)

    Woolf’s next mobile suit is probably the gundam lookalike they already featured in the plamo ads. The G Exes, I believe.

    Man, Grodek. Shows just how far a man who’s lost everything can go for revenge. It’s interesting, because in that way he’s just the same as Flit.

    • So mobile suit technology sucks so much because of the treaty they mentioned. Not being able to produce mobile suits, and information on weapons technology being limited to the army alone really puts weapons development at a slow rate. No wonder they’ve been getting their asses kicked by the UE for ten years! it’s funny because in this, they’re showing that the price of peace is losing the ability to defend themselves against greater threats. (Saying “peace sucks” in Gundam? Nice one, lol!) The One Year War was like, one year, and how much did the technology advance during thecourse f under one year? Meanwhile, ten years goes by and in AGE the best grunt they can come up with is the Genoace. Pitiful in comparison.

      Excellent point.

      Flit’s great at having the resolve to fight, but really, there are lots like him:

      Usso Evin
      Kamille Bidan (oh LOL does he EVER)
      Heero Yuy (retarded)
      Setsuna F. Seiei (OHEMGEE)
      Shinn Asuka (/vomit)

      Fardain is a kiddy show kind of setting. Simplistic to the point of absurdity but communicates several important ideas: long-standing war, commonplace violence, etc.

      • ces06 says:

        Kamille Bidan (oh LOL does he EVER)
        Heero Yuy (retarded)
        Setsuna F. Seiei (OHEMGEE)
        Shinn Asuka (/vomit)

        LOL. Well, haven’t seen V so I don’t know much about Usso Evin.

        “Fardain is a kiddy show kind of setting. Simplistic to the point of absurdity but communicates several important ideas: long-standing war, commonplace violence, etc.

        Yeah, it’s only been six episodes, but AGE has been good at getting those kinds of ideas across through both subtle and absurd things.

  3. Stormshrug says:

    A perspective to consider:

    What if, on this colony, these Mobile Suit gang wars are more a form of conspicuous consumption than true battles? Note the following:

    -They have the resources to install armor plates that pop up over EVERY SINGLE SURFACE on the colony. They do this instead of stopping the fights, which would assuredly be easier.

    -We know that there is a substantial divide between the rich and the poor on this colony, and the old factional wars seem, from our limited evidence, to mostly be the domain of the rich.

    -The combat is tremendously non-lethal. Despite the availability of weapons that can destroy other Mobile Suits in a single attack, including as giant friggin’ heat-shovels available to construction MS, they use ineffective ballistic weapons.

    -When a new enemy appears, the both the red and blue teams IMMEDIATELY begin firing on it, instead of the blue guy shooting the red guy in the back once he’s distracted.

    I think this is some sort of ritualized combat, practiced by the literal super-stratum, because they have nothing better to do than settle century-old blood debts. There’s some historical basis to this: many forms of combat, and even warfare, in human history have been less based on maximized lethality and more based on adherence to custom and tradition. What we saw in this episode was something akin to a medieval melee or joust – violent and dangerous, to be sure, and with generations of honor on the line – but also not an optimized way to go about fighting. The image of the two armored knights beating at each other savagely, and to no avail, from ‘The Once and Future King’ comes to mind…

  4. WhatSht says:

    Flit getting surrounded by those Zakus is just stupid, don’t try to explain, you got a Gundam against Zakus, just destroy them(and maybe the colony too, I suspect that Fardain is associated with the UE).
    And he could always bring the noobish beam gun originally used by Genoaces to trash Zakus.

    Watching Zakus fight with almost no casualty other than wasting bullets(the skirmishes actually remind me of G Gundam, where the gundams fight while the countries don’t give a fuck), I want the people-in-charge to die, at least send in troops to stop them.

  5. Vendredi says:

    Clearly some form of Gundanium armour equivalent has been developed in AGE that can harness the power of plot. But yes, any sort of combined arms mecha portrayal is extremely unlikely, especially so for Gundam. I think only MS IGLOO 2 even attempted it in any way.

  6. foshizzel says:

    Dem some fake Zakus….and horrible colors! Brown team versus damn purple?! And they suck at close range come on! LEARN TO AIM….I laughed when they saw the AGE appear and totally went WTF IS THAT WE BETTER HIDE! Amazing tactic there guys let’s run and hide from the all powerful Gundam.

    And that whole Gundam arrival thing! I was waiting for Flint to whip out his AGE thing and “call” the Gundam to arrive like Big-O styled, ah well it still was funny to see the truck arrive in what under two minutes? And now it looks like the UE have evolved so Flint needs new weapons. And that means super melee mode here we come! I am interested to see that, but I have a feeling it won’t happen in the next episode.

    As always those other pilot comments make me smile xD

  7. You know, when I first read this first part of this post (before watching the episode), I only though of WWI, in which “20th century defense meets 19th century offense”. Basically, tecnology was soo advance in defense and defensive tactics, yet there was little advance in offensive tactics and weaponry until the end of the war with the introduccion of tanks and air bombers.

    But now that I watched the episode….I feel dirty….dirtier than watching Kira shopping before final battle…..after watching this episode I actually feel that watching Basara play&pilot is ok.

    This episode was badly scripted, badly set, and badly plan out it actually made me want to puke, specially since all this errors could have been fixed by minor things. So I will just numerate them:

    1) Telling me that the colony/Farlain is filled with rich/poor/corrupt/Lord of War people doesn`t tell me anything and looks stupid. Now, tell me all the above AND that the colony has a Manhattan-size meteor filled with diamonds/gold/precious resource besides them, and now everything actually makes a lot of sense.

    2) Grodick didn`t needed to pop a magic transformation to call the attention. Just throw a single blueprint to the War lord and that would have been more than enough to talk business.

    3) It would have been easier to understand if Flit would have called and asked for the Gundam to be in standby for emergency while rushing to the upper levels of the colony. Then the 1-2 minutes delay to bring the Gundam would have sound logical.

    4) Finally, Flit allowing himself to be capture like that……..it would have even easier to understand the UE would have damage the joints (just enough damage to halve Gundam`s mobility) or even capture Vargas.

    That would have made the episode a little bit easier to digest and understand. But personally, this episode felt like a jump to the sharks, and they failed bad.

    • Interesting points, except that Basara is awesome.

      Seriously though, the presentation is indeed terrible, but not as criminal as you accuse it.

      There is an obvious approach of making the fighting very simple, simplistic even. Thus I accept that dodgy kiddy show “logic” will show up more often than I’m comfortable with. But jumping the shark? Really? Either the phrase has lost all meaning or you’re just trying too hard to dismiss the show.

      • Maverick05 says:

        I am sorry if I was a bit rude up there (and btw sorry, by accident I linked my FB account). And Basara is ok…..but I still have M7 banned here. =)

        I haven`t rewatch the episode, and I not even sure I want to during this week. I like AGE, I also don`t mind if they pull up the kiddy show “logic”, yet the scriptwriter and producer took way to many shortcuts on this episode, which I hope the Captain actually clears up on the next one.

        BTW, before the series started, I named it “Gundam meets Megaman”. It was funny to see that construction mecha, since it just screamed megaman!!

  8. squaresphere says:

    It’s been established that Fardain is a pretty corrupt colony where the feddies are in the pockets of the local powers. What we also learn from this ep is that are are arms merchants that can supply mobile suits AND warships that live here. Grodek knows this, there was no “by chance” for the Deva to put into port at this colony. Also, it seem the local space is also just as “lawless” as there’s a merchant ship that can build custom mobile suits (one would assume that this would be a highly regulated industry). I imagine that Wolf is going to get a suit with a mobility upgrade but not necessarily weapons. If he does get a weapons upgrade then it just goes to show how incredibly inept that Fed has become at designing weapons.

    AGE as been pretty decent at the story telling and creating a deeper situation than it first appears. Obviously, this is to show Flit that there are no easy ways to win with politics involved and that there is a some very ugly sides to humanity. I’m going to assume everything will be fine until the merchant tries to screw Grodek, then he’s going to enact his “Plan B” (he seems the type that has a plan B where it screws everyone but himself).

    I’m really looking forward to seeing why Grodek wants these warships. He doesn’t have the man power to crew them and having 4 new non feddie ships attach to the Deva would raise a LOT of questions from the loyal Feddie crew.

    But lets put on our fake, in universe, “merchant of death” hat on for a look at the economic situation on Fardain. I take a look over on my blog http://squaresphere.wordpress.com/gundam-age-fardain-home-to-merchants-of-death/

    • All very interesting things, and I’m very glad that such elements can be read into the work.

      We just have to live with the presentation — how such nuance is presented by crappy mobile suit battles.

      Grodek continues to be a very interesting character. It’s good how his dark personality is the one driving the plot thus far.

  9. Kalandor says:

    I wonder why Flit was surprised of being antagonized and arrested by whatever faction that was. I mean he was challenging them two minutes ago!
    Not to speak of the Gundams speed should easily allow him to get away…

    • Kalandor says:

      Oh I almost forgot to mention: As an heir to a family of weapons designers it will be interesting if he spots the hypocritical of giving the characteristic “war is bad” speech of the gundam pilots.

    • He’s a kid, and he will contradict himself more as the show goes on. I wouldn’t be surprised when he eventually gets seriously confronted by his desire to get better at fighting and the violence he must then be responsible for.

  10. Whatsht says:

    Gundam age would become a hot blooded real robot anime

  11. Reid says:

    I’m a little disappointed that Woolf is going to trade in his awesomely average Genoace “Custom” for a Gundam-alike so soon into the show. It really is clear Bandai just wanted me to buy two model kits – I guess I’m dumb for not seeing this coming. However, the process by which he just leaves the Diva to go hit up some shady characters with their own private army of green GM-looking things is pretty slick. Maybe there’s more to our Grand Prix mobile suit racer than meets the eye…perhaps his desire for a mobile suit “better than a Gundam” is going to be his gateway into some back-stabbing yet to come!

  12. Gamer2002 says:

    Am I the only one who thinks that the whole Zaku deal was a parody of typical Gundam baddies?

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